tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post1401152077882228681..comments2024-03-09T08:49:50.735+05:30Comments on Discovering Mughal, Rajput & Mauryan History: Farman of Hamida Banu Begum to protect a Brahmin Saint of Mathura | With Scan of Original PersianAbhayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06797421588360034980noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-40140202835836032252015-01-27T19:54:50.374+05:302015-01-27T19:54:50.374+05:30Ela
Absolutely wonderful farman - thanks for sha...Ela<br /><br /><br />Absolutely wonderful farman - thanks for sharing :)Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-21279398023762273142015-01-23T01:14:10.447+05:302015-01-23T01:14:10.447+05:30This is really beautiful. Awesome. :)
Thanks for s...This is really beautiful. Awesome. :)<br />Thanks for sharing. :DAbhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-17344299419041777832015-01-22T16:11:35.530+05:302015-01-22T16:11:35.530+05:30Gopaldas ke liye shahi farman 1565
(Gol Muhar) ...Gopaldas ke liye shahi farman 1565<br /><br /><br />(Gol Muhar) Jalaluddin Mohammad Akbar Padshah Gazi ka farman. <br /> Babur, Humanyu ....<br /><br /><br />Aaj yeh farman jiske palaln ki apeksha ki jaati hai, jaari kiya jaata hai ki (aaj ki )taarikh ke baad se 200 beegha (jiska aadha hua)100 bigha , aadha kashtasudha , aadha banjar (aadhe) niyam ke antargat , gram elasinghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-16941892534449014022015-01-22T15:50:19.122+05:302015-01-22T15:50:19.122+05:30I am posting a farman which has been issued by Akb...I am posting a farman which has been issued by Akbar for Mathura temples..elasinghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-1860436933087823792014-12-16T23:58:15.743+05:302014-12-16T23:58:15.743+05:30Geeta
Sanskrit and Persian evolved over centurie...Geeta<br /><br /><br />Sanskrit and Persian evolved over centuries from older prototype Indo-Iranian languages. The scripts may also be different because Sanskrit uses a phonetic alphabet.:)Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-39190969713052746022014-12-16T19:03:17.814+05:302014-12-16T19:03:17.814+05:30Thank u Radhikafr that valued info. But Radhika, i...Thank u Radhikafr that valued info. But Radhika, isn't it surprising that their scripts r so different? Also I never knew Sikh history is written in Persian language! Thanks:)geetanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-30978415382088954972014-12-16T11:52:35.116+05:302014-12-16T11:52:35.116+05:30Geeta
Yes, the Golden Temple is a beautiful exam...Geeta<br /><br /><br />Yes, the Golden Temple is a beautiful example of Indo-Persian fusion architecture. :)<br /><br /><br />Thanks for the details!Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-66035142867022523222014-12-16T11:10:45.716+05:302014-12-16T11:10:45.716+05:30Geeta,
Old Persian )from which Persian came late...Geeta,<br /><br /><br />Old Persian )from which Persian came later) and Sanskrit are both quite old and quite similar! :) Possibly they derived from the same source and then evolved into different languages over the years.<br /><br /><br />The ancient Persian religious books are called Avesta. Their language is quite similar to that of Vedas. Of course, with phonetic differences, such as "s&Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-51897844307619530772014-12-16T11:00:21.193+05:302014-12-16T11:00:21.193+05:30interesting article Radhika. thanksinteresting article Radhika. thankscoolpreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-77339387392255781342014-12-16T10:25:10.191+05:302014-12-16T10:25:10.191+05:30Hi Preeti, Sav, Abhay and all friends,
The symbol...Hi Preeti, Sav, Abhay and all friends,<br /><br />The symbol on the MUZ tomb wall is most likely a surahi. These motifs were commonly used on the walls of palaces in Fatehpur Sikri and Sikandra in the early 17th century.<br /><br />They were also used in wall niches in the background of imperial Mughal paintings, such as "the Death of Inayat Khan". Here they were used as design elementsRadhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-56811908584590944502014-12-16T10:07:35.239+05:302014-12-16T10:07:35.239+05:30Preeti
You may be right.
It seems you have al...Preeti<br /><br /><br />You may be right. <br /><br /><br />It seems you have also started posting info from "tattered documents breathing their last". ;pRadhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-18489059337905962512014-12-16T07:29:03.710+05:302014-12-16T07:29:03.710+05:30Hi Radhika, Abhay, Iqra , geeta, SAV and all... Si...Hi Radhika, Abhay, Iqra , geeta, SAV and all... Since we have seen the pitcher/ surahi on mUZ tomb, can we then safely assume that the seal on MUZ farman may also be a surahi and not a kalash? When I posted info on MUZ farman from Timirzi, the farman was illustrated in his book but is very badly damaged and the seal is not visible at all. Hope Abhay is able to get a better scan of the Farmancoolpreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-35572750713864815132014-12-15T19:34:53.011+05:302014-12-15T19:34:53.011+05:30Okay. Makes sense. Thanks Abhay :)Okay. Makes sense. Thanks Abhay :)SavTruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-76159399512154557512014-12-15T19:32:07.023+05:302014-12-15T19:32:07.023+05:30Thanks Radhika!
This is a wonderful piece of infor...Thanks Radhika!<br />This is a wonderful piece of information. So the Sikh holy book is an amalgam of various languages. Beautiful.SavTruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-74679052062736650272014-12-15T16:59:25.411+05:302014-12-15T16:59:25.411+05:30Hi Sav,
Jahangir's tomb and also Nur Jahan'...Hi Sav,<br />Jahangir's tomb and also Nur Jahan's tomb is "covered". They do not have domes over the cenotaphs but they are simply covered by a roof, and not open to sky. The spiritual reasons are related to not "covering" the cenotaphs and leaving it open to sky. :)Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-83546271927064664142014-12-15T16:25:09.793+05:302014-12-15T16:25:09.793+05:30But Akbar, Jahangir, Humayun's tombs had a dom...But Akbar, Jahangir, Humayun's tombs had a dome. Interestingly even Nur Jahan's tomb is dome-less. Are we sure that only for spiritual reasons, a Mughal tomb was built without a dome?SavTruthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-30560495084508950512014-12-15T15:28:55.721+05:302014-12-15T15:28:55.721+05:30Geeta,
Genghis Khan was Prithviraj Chauhan's c...Geeta,<br />Genghis Khan was Prithviraj Chauhan's contemporary , around late 12th century. This language topic is a bit contradictory, but both Persian and Sanskrit are fairly old.Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-22748974479347314002014-12-15T13:40:53.609+05:302014-12-15T13:40:53.609+05:30Ha, ha nice name Mughalistan:) Btw, what was the t...Ha, ha nice name Mughalistan:) Btw, what was the timeline of Ghenhis khan?<br />Radhika, as far as my knowledge goes,Sansrit is the oldest language is it right? Or is it Persian?geetanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-7372778526828279112014-12-15T13:33:38.840+05:302014-12-15T13:33:38.840+05:30Radhika, Abhay, Savtruth, thank u all fr this valu...Radhika, Abhay, Savtruth, thank u all fr this valuable info n the interesting discussion that followed.! U r right Radhika, it's more like a surahi than a Kalash.Btw, Savtruth was there any stepwell aslo nearby? I hv read that Salim had constucted a stepwell near her grave as per MUZ's wishes.<br /> As far as Golden temple is concerned,many sources say that this land was bought by geetanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-48935789574792687892014-12-15T11:40:06.535+05:302014-12-15T11:40:06.535+05:30Iqra,
You are running one step ahead of me. :-P
I...Iqra,<br />You are running one step ahead of me. :-P<br /><br />I am also looking into this matter because i am also trying to know the circumstances in which Khurram was given to Ruqayya. I will reply for SURE when i get my answers. :)Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-62759529736275117252014-12-15T10:45:07.026+05:302014-12-15T10:45:07.026+05:30Iqra,
True, royal cupboards hide many skeletons ...Iqra,<br /><br /><br />True, royal cupboards hide many skeletons too. LOL<br /><br /><br />I don't know anything about Babur, except that he was a great writer and poet and a Turkic scholar. Would like to know more about his personal life. Good Q, Iqra. I want to know the answer too :)Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-85118840696133806382014-12-15T09:23:52.661+05:302014-12-15T09:23:52.661+05:30radhika - nice correlation. i want 2 add another d...radhika - nice correlation. i want 2 add another dimension. dere must b sme families who hide things inside. <br />i knw tat babur gave a son of 1 of his wives 2 another wife. :-(<br />bt d reasons of tat r not known clearly. it iz lyk d case of khurram to ruqaiya begum. if ny1 knows plz reply here.Iqra Khannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-477927619105217082014-12-15T00:54:09.552+05:302014-12-15T00:54:09.552+05:30wow Radhika! fascinating information thanks sor sh...wow Radhika! fascinating information thanks sor sharing.coolpreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-88810926163550751342014-12-15T00:12:14.395+05:302014-12-15T00:12:14.395+05:30Sav,
Mian Mir was a great mystic saint from Laho...Sav, <br /><br />Mian Mir was a great mystic saint from Lahore. He was Dara Shikoh's preceptor to Sufism. Wow, it's incredible that this Sikh temple's foundation was laid by a Sufi saint on land given by a Mughal emperor!<br /><br />Why more Qs? By Akbar's time itself, Persian had become the official language. Many Persian words had also crept into the language spoken by the Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-45817837912939801572014-12-14T23:29:49.059+05:302014-12-14T23:29:49.059+05:30Hi Sav,
Most spiritual people preferred to have ...Hi Sav,<br /><br /><br />Most spiritual people preferred to have open graves, rather than having domes over their graves - so that their souls could look at the sky and converse with God freely. MUZ was no exception. <br /><br /><br />This was another thing common between MUZ and Jahanara. The latter also preferred an open grave covered with grass. :)<br /><br /><br />MUZ's tomb also has a Radhikanoreply@blogger.com