tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post7374474167801574431..comments2024-03-09T08:49:50.735+05:30Comments on Discovering Mughal, Rajput & Mauryan History: When a Mughal Prince asked Pardon from HIS LADYAbhayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06797421588360034980noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-80577383883358695332014-12-07T20:53:47.768+05:302014-12-07T20:53:47.768+05:30Preeti
They look Hindu.Preeti<br /><br /><br />They look Hindu.Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-6882583309881521752014-12-07T19:25:50.166+05:302014-12-07T19:25:50.166+05:30so interesting Radhika, BTW do these ladies look ...so interesting Radhika, BTW do these ladies look Rajput or Mughal?coolpreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-56872744487527329192014-12-07T19:24:41.582+05:302014-12-07T19:24:41.582+05:30How beautiful! thanksHow beautiful! thankscoolpreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-28636982098584402932014-12-07T18:33:59.611+05:302014-12-07T18:33:59.611+05:30A woman artist capturing her surroundings on a dra...A woman artist capturing her surroundings on a drawing block. This drawing is from Shah Jahan's reign.Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-47569182854745691712014-12-07T18:28:58.211+05:302014-12-07T18:28:58.211+05:30The portrait of Shah Tamasp by Sahifa BanuThe portrait of Shah Tamasp by Sahifa BanuRadhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-89176303352032898292014-12-07T01:49:12.985+05:302014-12-07T01:49:12.985+05:30Nadira Banu is the daughter of Mir Taqi and a pupi...Nadira Banu is the daughter of Mir Taqi and a pupil of Aqa Riza. Her surviving work appears to be from the last years of Akbar's reign. But she was also assigned as a painter to Prince Salim during Akbar's reign.Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-78877515136554174282014-12-07T01:43:14.593+05:302014-12-07T01:43:14.593+05:30Two more women artists are mentioned from the time...Two more women artists are mentioned from the times of Akbar and Jahangir - Ruqaiya Banu and Nadira Banu. <br /><br /><br />I don't think this Ruqaiya is Akbar's wife. :)<br /><br /><br />A folio from Khamsa-i-Nizami shows a woman artist painting a self-portrait.Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-11514996651088263742014-12-07T01:34:59.975+05:302014-12-07T01:34:59.975+05:30For those who wish to know, Shah Tahmasp was a gre...For those who wish to know, Shah Tahmasp was a great Safavid patron who reigned in Persia from 1524 to 1576. <br /><br /><br />Sahifa Banu's painting of the Shah was found worthy of one of the richest 17th-century Mughal borders. Perhaps it was adorned by Mansur himself. It had drawings in gold of flora and fauna.Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-22688023018867710442014-12-07T01:09:51.619+05:302014-12-07T01:09:51.619+05:30Abhay
I found this interesting snippet that in t...Abhay<br /><br /><br />I found this interesting snippet that in the entire Mughal history, there was only one notable female artist, Sahifa Banu, around 1620. There is a fine drawing from Shah Jahan's reign that shows a woman artist among the other women, capturing her surroundings on a drawing block. <br /><br /><br />I saw one of her paintings - a portrait of Shah Tahmasp. Most exquisite. :)Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-72650301997602457352014-12-05T23:13:31.468+05:302014-12-05T23:13:31.468+05:30Preeti,
I have seen those links before. But the p...Preeti,<br /><br />I have seen those links before. But the point is, we were discussing paintings of "MUZ" , commissioned by Akbar "himself". <br /><br />These paintings are altered ones / later versions. Some of them are in Urdu language which is a later development. Add to this, they mention her as Maharani Jodha Bai, which was not her name. :)<br /><br />About the picture Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-55027655517710394232014-12-05T23:13:28.516+05:302014-12-05T23:13:28.516+05:30History-geek,thank u fr those rare paintings. are ...History-geek,thank u fr those rare paintings. are they connected, i.e frm same painter? my reading frm the painting is the girl is a Hindu, no doubt. She seems to be a spinster as she has no nose ring.<br /> I don't know if the king in the second painting is a Mughal.His head dress is similar to pagdi.<br /> The striking factor is that the man really loves that woman, that is why doing geetanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-56951769319563690162014-12-03T20:02:29.153+05:302014-12-03T20:02:29.153+05:30Pallavi
Polygamy was a norm but not everyone nec...Pallavi<br /><br /><br />Polygamy was a norm but not everyone necessarily had multiple wives.<br /><br /><br />Secondly, most marriages then were arranged and may be just one or two of them might have been based on personal choice (love, attraction etc). People in arranged marriages looked for security and financial comfort. As long as the women got this, they were happy. <br /><br /><br />The Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-55670496901323568782014-12-03T14:30:00.327+05:302014-12-03T14:30:00.327+05:30Pallavi,
History is a double edged sword. :(
We ha...Pallavi,<br />History is a double edged sword. :(<br />We have +ve's and -ve's both. I can understand what you mean.Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-89945092818027567682014-12-03T14:27:01.101+05:302014-12-03T14:27:01.101+05:30Just feeling sympathetic towards ladies of those t...Just feeling sympathetic towards ladies of those times :(Pallavinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-64247106682219957752014-12-03T14:05:30.442+05:302014-12-03T14:05:30.442+05:30Pallavi,
The concept of Love and Loyalty was diff...Pallavi,<br /><br />The concept of Love and Loyalty was different those days. Those times were different. The <b>definition</b> of Love was different. It was about the <b>trust factor and the deep sense of understanding</b> between the couple. You could get anything those days BUT this trust and deep sense of understanding and the connect was found only in someone special. :)<br /><br />We shouldAbhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-84429701041429507012014-12-03T14:01:08.314+05:302014-12-03T14:01:08.314+05:30Rakshitha,
That is not the case as you used to t...Rakshitha, <br /><br />That is not the case as you used to think. Even there is a famous of Akbar Rajput wives "taunting" him for not being able to enforce his order at some ocassion. Along with this, there is an instance where his Muslim and Hindu wives teamed up to join against him. ;p<br /><br />They were also humans, and had their own "anger-reconciliations" scenarios. I Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-38734967357492627892014-12-03T13:49:43.909+05:302014-12-03T13:49:43.909+05:30Yes Radhika and Preeti, that is the painting i am ...Yes Radhika and Preeti, that is the painting i am referring to.<br /><br />In that painting, the mother of Salim is clearly shown to be an Indian lady. <br /><br />Akbar and the other lady, most probably Hamida Bano Begum are in clear Mongoloid complexion. And both of them are wearing crowns also. And both are with grey hair. ;p<br /><br />Surprisingly, the mother is that picture appears young. Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-8280958212174370152014-12-03T11:20:11.462+05:302014-12-03T11:20:11.462+05:30Thank you for sharing these rare pictures and info...Thank you for sharing these rare pictures and info Abhay :) .....I don't know whether to be happy or utterly disappointed seeing the pictures.....Comfort, power, luxury, pampering was enjoyed by royal ladies (as per their position in front of princes and their standing) but did they enjoy absolute love & loyalty from their partners in that polygamous setup :( .....Waise any idea who the Pallavinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-22692773546892017642014-12-03T09:24:26.146+05:302014-12-03T09:24:26.146+05:30Lovely paintings and desriptions Abhay! Thanks a l...Lovely paintings and desriptions Abhay! Thanks a lot for sharing them!<br /><br />I had always though that Begum's/ladies were always scared of their lords, but this painting proved me wrong! Like you have said at last, they are human's after all!<br />And those paintings have uniquely depicted the anger of that lady!<br /><br />And bega begum instance! I had thought all begums of humayunRakshitha Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-42290663437419231642014-12-03T08:50:08.701+05:302014-12-03T08:50:08.701+05:30Preeti,
Abhay wrote somewhere on this blog that ...Preeti,<br /><br /><br />Abhay wrote somewhere on this blog that there are no paintings of these 2 queens that were commissioned by Akbar himself or even by Jahangir. <br /><br /><br />I wonder why there were no women painters who could have drawn portraits of the queens, at least for Akbar?Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-32866601757239449212014-12-03T08:38:19.983+05:302014-12-03T08:38:19.983+05:30maybe. so question for both of you is that as far...maybe. so question for both of you is that as far as we know the only picture commissioned at akbar's time was "glory of faith"? what about Ruks and Salima any of their pictures survived?coolpreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-29308649039637382982014-12-03T08:26:16.777+05:302014-12-03T08:26:16.777+05:30Would this be the birth of Salim painting, Abhay, ...Would this be the birth of Salim painting, Abhay, because the others don't seem possible?Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-12142890663623849672014-12-03T02:58:41.387+05:302014-12-03T02:58:41.387+05:30Preeti,
I have seen those links before. But the p...Preeti,<br /><br />I have seen those links before. But the point is, we were discussing paintings of "MUZ" , commissioned by Akbar "himself". <br /><br />These paintings on those links are altered ones / later versions. Some of them are in Urdu language which was a later development. Add to this, they mention her as Maharani Jodha Bai, which was not her correct name. :)<br /><Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-78476887707083961052014-12-03T02:44:21.974+05:302014-12-03T02:44:21.974+05:30Aashrita, You have noted a nice point here - The p...Aashrita, You have noted a nice point here - The painting was also commissioned, of such an apology. This throws light on various facets of those times, viz. the personal emotions. We can have so many deductions from this. :)Abhayhttp://mariam-uz-zamani.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026714605465516937.post-44419589346648087392014-12-03T01:06:46.279+05:302014-12-03T01:06:46.279+05:30Ayushi,
So well said! That's why I said you ...Ayushi,<br /><br /><br />So well said! That's why I said you are the expert on relationships. :)Radhikanoreply@blogger.com